just how china comes into play here or sometimes even some of the middle eastern partners are where opec comes in and start to address crisis or supply in particular or technically how the market trades itself around that band. there was never really a premise to where people were looking for that to exceed 27 or '8, it started getting into the 30 level because of fundamental breakdowns. and i think that's the reason why a lot of people are starting to look at the historics to see if we hit that moving average which is much lower. >> michael gur ka from spectrum asset management, thank you so much. and thank you, everyone, for tuning into the show. i'm kelly evans. ross westgate will be back here tomorrow morning. now it's time for "squawk box" in the u.s. we'll keep an eye on the markets. have a great day. >>> good morning. president obama and john boehner meet face-to-face on sunday. does it mean we're any closer to the solution to the fiscal cliff? >>> a news conference by chairman ben bernanke, set for wednesday.